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Old 20-11-2011, 21:51
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Default i3 gen 1 v. i3 gen 2 or i5

Not a mathematical formula, but some info required:

Last year, Laptops had i3 processors as a norm, i5 processors were deemed to run too hot.

This year - i3's have gone to 2nd generation?
What have they done to them, and is it a major improvement?

i5's are now more common in Laptops.
What have they done to i5's to improve them, and are the i5's now acceptable?

Having read about 6Gb RAM v. 4GB RAM, I am reasonably sure that 4Gb would be OK, for my needs (Surfing Office stuff etc)

HDD space isn't important to me (I have a 2TB NAS drive)

The machine I am looking at (will more than likely be a new year sale purchase) is a Toshiba (Current Laptop is a Toshiba & I have had no complaints) C660-1ZM, it's got a intel core i3 2310M processor (Is that a second generation i3?)
It HAS 6Gb RAM, but would I be better with a i5 machine (not looked specifically yet)

Thanks - Dave
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Old 20-11-2011, 22:50
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slightly flip answer - but in principle it works ....

answer to the first part ... who cares? - but if they didn't work they'd have stopped selling them by now.

follow on from first part - it's got a higher number ... therefore it's more powerful.

good strategy, waiting for NY sales ...

the original i set processors were discovered to have a bit of a problem ... it wasn't bad enough to warrant a wholesale recall ... they just reduced the price and are still trying to sell them off.

the gen2 sandybridge processors are quite awesome ... but i3 not a patch on the i5 ... which in turn isn't a patch on the i7. (note the higher numbers! - for further info - see the price ... also a good indication)

remember that it's all relative ... compared to a 486 they are all pretty nifty.

the real criteria is cost ... set a budget - and stick to it.
also - it's so cut throat out there that price is as good an indicator as any other ... within a certain priceband you'll get pretty much the same "type" of machine.

also between now and then - read a few mags ... you don't need to read the techie stuff ... just look at the stars (then read the price).

it's a useful guide to the sort of things to look for

unfortunately there isn't a "best" you'll get other answers ... and they'll all be different ... and they'll all be just as valid

you've just got to do a bit of research and then decide for yourself
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Old 20-11-2011, 23:19
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Which 2nd Generation Intel Core Processor is right for you ?

Take a Test Drive

http://www.intel.com/?en_UK_15

I haven't tried it yet, so tell us if it is any good.

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tried to run it ... says mine isn't up to the job - I need a better machine! - try an i7
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Old 21-11-2011, 00:18
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Hi Dave,

I'm waiting until the Jan Sales to see what's on offer for desktops, so I'm interested in comments about i3, i5 and i7 too. I'll do a bit of research before then, so that I'll know what I'm getting.

My main problem is that all my networked XP Pro machines are zipping along without any problems, so I've seen no immediate need to upgrade to Windows 7.
I've now decided to get a new machine with 7 rather than upgrade one of my higher spec XP ones. Our 2 teenage daughter & son are suggesting that it's time I moved on.

Here's another more recent link for comparisons.

http://www.buzzle.com/articles/i3-i5-i7-comparison.html

http://www.buzzle.com/articles/intel-core-i3-vs-i5-vs-i7.html

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Last year, Laptops had i3 processors as a norm, i5 processors were deemed to run too hot.
Anyone got any personal experience (or comments) about i5 lappies still running hot ?

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Old 21-11-2011, 00:31
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I was serious - they fixed it ... the newer mobile processors run a little cooler ... and have better cooling ... not a problem

I think the i series was a bit rushed - the setback cured a few problems I've installed 5 recently last couple (dells) have been excellent - but I do like dell
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Thanks guys- really informative (as I'd expect from you)

Will take on board your advice, and look forward to reading any other views too.

Dave
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Old 21-11-2011, 15:07
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As someone with personal experience of the i7 second series cpu having built a machine from scratch and prior to that having a machine with the first i7 900
series I think it is a big improvement.

For a start if you get the 2600k you can easily overclock it from its base 3.4Ghz
to 5.0Ghz without any specialist knowledge, and as it runs much cooler than the previous incarnation you can run it easily on air at 4.5Ghz....my Cpu temperature
rarely exceeds 50c.

If you really want to fly add an SSD.
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Quote:
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For a start if you get the 2600k you can easily overclock it from its base 3.4Ghz
to 5.0Ghz without any specialist knowledge
good lord,,,,, 5.0GHz a shed of RAM and an SSD with a monster GPU,,, gamers heaven.
wonder how much Mrs Marbles and the mini Marbles are thinking of spending on me this krizzbo,,, and how can i direct them towards this thread,,
food for thought there i think.
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if you are buying laptop then it’s a moot point, if desk top then 2nd gen is better. The K versions overclock, the other versions don’t , a good i3K will be enough for most people, with the i5K being the seat spot. But the AMD stuff is good in low range graphics and lots of cheap cores. It depends on what you want/will do.

If I wanted a more netbook experience than AMD would be my choice, if I needed a lot of cores with discrete graphics then I would still go AMD, for a laptop it’s 2nd Gen i3/5 and for second gen desk to the same. As said above, the new i5K is able to hit (4.8) in my experience if the system is built for it, the trade off is cores.

AMD has the cores (at the right prices)
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